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Creationism vs. Evolution

Mr. Michael Stone, the “Portland Progressive Examiner” (Examiner.com) rants about the Texas Board of Education considering “new curriculum…designed to challenge evolution, and introduce creationism”.  This short article is my response.

They want to ADD stuff to the curriculum. They don’t remove evolution. They add creationism. This is good. If you want to promote knowledge and thinking that is. However, if you (Mr. Stone) want to indoctrinate, this is bad. I understand your frustration. As an engineer and scientist who is also a religious individual, I myself deal with these contradictions all the time. Let me explain this contradiction on a different level. Liberals are comfortable with thinking that we are all evolved from apes. This means that the past is low and unsophisticated. We should look forward to change, and away from traditions that belong to the “lower” past. Along with that goes the constitution and all of what many of us used to call “America” just two or three decades ago. Conservatives believe that our origin is divine. Thus, the past is perfect and anything that takes us farther from the past can not be as good. Conservatives cherish traditions, the constitution and the good old USA. How is that for a summary of the clash we are in?

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March 25, 2009 - Posted by | Conservatives vs. Liberals. | , , , , ,

13 Comments »

  1. Liberals are comfortable with thinking that we are all evolved from apes.

    The Theory of Evolution does not state this.

    Comment by Matt | March 25, 2009 | Reply

  2. Sorry to disappoint you, but creationism has not been added to the Texas standards. Secondly, evolution does not teach, and has never taught, that humans evolved from apes. Humans and apes share a common ancestor.

    Comment by airtightnoodle | March 25, 2009 | Reply

  3. I have to agree with the first two commenters evolution does not teach we evolved form apes.

    I got this great quote from UC Berkeley website on evolution: “Evolution means that we’re all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales.”, so go hug a tree and have a family reunion.

    Comment by mcoville | March 25, 2009 | Reply

  4. I would agree that in my short article I referred to the “politicized” version of Evolution.
    “Evolution means that we’re all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales” – Darwin was the first to warn that theory of evolution does not explain all changes and leaps across species and along time. Evolution have significant holes remained unexplained.

    Comment by bigblock57 | March 25, 2009 | Reply

  5. Why can’t it be both? A Creator started the process and was bright enough to allow the evolution of species to adapt to changing climate and conditions. I don’t see the problem with that theory.

    Comment by Happy Indep | March 25, 2009 | Reply

  6. “Evolution have significant holes remained unexplained.”

    Such as…?

    Comment by airtightnoodle | March 25, 2009 | Reply

  7. “Such as…?”, infinite regression.

    Comment by mcoville | March 26, 2009 | Reply

  8. And by that you are referring to, specifically…?

    Comment by Matt | March 26, 2009 | Reply

  9. I know the theory of evolution does not explain where life began, that is the theory of abiogenesis (chemical evolution), but when ToE is taught in schools they always point to the conclusion that all life evolved form one common ancestor billions of years ago.

    The infinite regression is that no one in the evolutionist community can explain where that ancestor came from, and if they try they can not explain where that source came from.

    Comment by mcoville | March 27, 2009 | Reply

  10. While I am a god-believing scientist and engineer, and have a lot to say on this subject; My post was more towards the evolution being hijacked by the left in aim to explain the departure from the constitution. (Evolution of ideas etc., vs. the constitution being old and frozen.) It is interesting to me that people are way more concerned about the origin of life on earth, than in their constitutional rights being slowly but surely taken away from them. (Not only by the left by the way…)

    Comment by Bigblock57 | March 27, 2009 | Reply

  11. The infinite regression is that no one in the evolutionist community can explain where that ancestor came from, and if they try they can not explain where that source came from.

    You defined the answer yourself; which is found in the Theory of Abiogenesis.

    Your understanding of the Theory of Evolution also seems to be a tad amiss, since it does not deal with the origin of life. Instead, it deals with the diversity of species and that is pretty much it.

    Comment by Matt | March 27, 2009 | Reply

  12. The infinite regression is that no one in the evolutionist community can explain where that ancestor came from, and if they try they can not explain where that source came from.

    Are you agreeing that the evidence after that point is conclusive that evolution is a fact?

    Not having agreement, or evidence, for everything does not invalidate the evidence that does exist. That evidence is overwhelming.

    Darwin wrote The Origin of Species in 1859. DNA was not even identified until 1869, but it confirms that we share genetic inheritance with all other species.

    Whether we began as stuff deposited by aliens and evolved, stuff deposited by God and evolved, stuff that was just there and evolved, or some other initial conditions followed by evolution does not matter. None of these possibilities cast any doubt on evolution.

    Comment by Rogue Medic | June 30, 2010 | Reply

  13. Along with that goes the constitution and all of what many of us used to call “America” just two or three decades ago. Conservatives believe that our origin is divine.

    Our Founding Fathers created a Constitution that allows for amendment. The people would not agree to the Constitution without a Bill of Rights.

    Thus, the past is perfect and anything that takes us farther from the past can not be as good.

    And yet you use a computer, which does a wonderful job of taking us toward a future of dramatic improvements. As with all change, there are problems as well. To deny that would be foolish.

    The only way to avoid change is by death. Life is change.

    We have children, which are the most dramatic change that most of us will experience, but we welcome this change.

    Conservatives cherish traditions, the constitution and the good old USA. How is that for a summary of the clash we are in?

    You mix contradictory items.

    The Constitution is a revolutionary document created by a bunch of people who risked everything in rebellion against the status quo.

    The Constitution recognizes that the only way to ensure the survival of America is to make provisions for change. There was a lot of conflict over slavery, but the compromise was that slave importation would be permitted until at least 1808.

    Those opposed to the Constitution, went to war against the United States so they could continue to enslave other human beings. Today, many people look at these traitors as people to emulate. One thing evolution makes clear is that the differences among humans are minor.

    Then there is life expectancy, which was about half of what it is now. Improving life expectancy dramatically takes us away from the past. That is a good thing.

    Change is bad/tradition is good are nice for a bumper sticker, but they do not reflect reality. Unthinking rejection of change is as bad as unthinking praise of change. Unthinking rejection of tradition is as bad as unthinking praise of tradition. We need to be able to discriminate what is good from what is bad.

    The United States was begun by a bunch of well educated men, who understood the value of science and who would have recognized the truth of evolution if they had lived long enough.

    Comment by Rogue Medic | June 30, 2010 | Reply


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